Simon Smith and guests discuss how to make beautiful TV on a budget. With Phil Smith, a freelance series producer who has worked on Great British Menu, Mickey Lachmann a director who recently worked on the BBC Two maths series The Code, and Clare Tavernor, producer and director on The Culture Show. Joining us down the line is Pamela Gordon, a freelance documentary maker who recently directed the Saira Kan documentary Adopting Abroad.