There's expected to eventually be a civil war in Afghanistan.
Foreigners and those who helped international governments are desperately trying to get out of the Middle Eastern country, after the Taliban took over.
Former United Nations Development Programme boss, Helen Clark, told Mike Hosking there's a prospect of protracted civil war in Afghanistan.
She says there are militias led by war lords who've chosen not to fight but to bide their time for now.
“The thought that a medieval theocracy like the Taliban is going to be able unite Afghanistan, well, hasn’t happened before.”
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