In the wake of MeToo and the Black Lives Matter movement, the media world has been looking hard at who it portrays and how. The BBC created the position 'Director of Creative Diversity' to change minority representation. But how much change is needed - and who has to make way for these new, more diverse appointments?

Panel: June Sarpong, BBC's Director of Creative Diversity; and Matthew Syed, Sunday Times columnist and author of Rebel Ideas: The Power of Diverse Thinking.

Presenter: Amol Rajan
Studio engineer: Giles Aspen
Producer: Hannah Sander