Dave Woods is joined by Jon Wilkin who spent six years trying to set up a players union called League 13 to discover what went wrong and what needs to change if the players want their voices to be heard plus catches up with Toronto Wolfpack's Head of Rugby Brian Noble after he was awarded an MBE in the Queen's Birthday Honours and talks to author Frank Malley about his new book on Wigan's 'Invincibles' side that won the Challenge Cup for an incredible 8 years in a row between 1988 and 1995.