On this week’s podcast, Dave Woods is joined by Wigan Warriors assistant coach Lee Briers and former dual-code international Iestyn Harris. They discuss Lee’s impending new role down under with the Brisbane Broncos, the fight for the top six and why relegation is an out-dated concept. Plus, the detail behind Wigan’s success and those names who have thrilled and excited us down the years.

03:00 Lee discusses his impending move to the NRL with Brisbane Broncos.

08:25 He talks about the disappointment of leaving Warrington and the excitement of joining Wigan this season.

13:40 Iestyn moved from English rugby league to Wales rugby union and says there’s a similarity with the intensity Lee will face in Australia.

15:20 The focus turns to Super League and the race for the title and the play-off places.

18:00 Both are very surprised by the season their former club Warrington have endured.

22:00 Toulouse are likely to be relegated, but Lee feels they should remain in Super League and that promotion and relegation is an out-dated concept.

26:55 Leeds are looking like they’ll make the play-offs, but are they Grand Final outsiders?

29:30 Salford are the entertainers this year, and the panel think they play the game the way it should be played.

33:00 Lee talks about the ‘detail’ behind Wigan’s approach on defence and attack and how the past is influencing the present.

39:10 The importance of detail is highlighted by famous tries scored by Jonathan Davies and Martin Offiah.

42:10 Lee and Iestyn talk of the players who’ve thrilled them down the years.